Coprophagie: mange les crottes des autres animaux

Bonsoir,

Petit souci récurent actuellement avec Suki, elle mange les crottes des autres animaux. Pas celles des autres chiens mais alors les crottes de canards et autres volatiles sans oublier celles des lapins c'est la cata. On lui apprend actuellement le "tu laisses" et ça marche plutôt bien mais pas du tout avec ces petites "douceurs" et franchement ça devient pénible de lui récupérer ses trucs dans la gueule plusieurs fois par jour... :puker: . Ca ne se repère pas toujours facilement du coup difficile d'anticiper.

Vous auriez une idée de la raison et de ce que je pourrai faire pour empêcher ça ? J'ai peur qu'à ce rhytme elle chope des vers ou une autre saleté.

Merci pour votre aide.

Mais c'est tellement booonnn et tellement canin ! :cool-blue:

Je ne peux pas t'aider...j'en ai un qui ne rate pas une crotte de chat, un autre qui préfère les déjections d'Homo sapiens, le troisième se roule sur les crottes de renard et les poissons morts...

Un temps je mourrais d'envie de leur mettre des muselières étanches aux crottes... What the fuck ?!?

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Malheureusement, je ne crois pas qu'il existe un truc miracle pour empêcher nos toutous de manger de la crotte ou de se rouler dans les carcasses d'animaux à moins de les garder en laisse ou en longe pour pouvoir intervenir à temps Coprophagie: mange les crottes des autres animaux 987241228

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Chez moi, j'ai installé mes litières à chat de façon à ce que mes chiens n'y aient pas accès mais c'est moins évident de gérer ça à l'extérieure quand les minets du voisinage viennent faire leurs petits besoins sur le terrain Confused

En plus, comme les chats sont généralement difficiles gastronomiquement parlant, les croquettes sont bourrées d'additifs alimentaires qui ne sont pas absorbées pas le système digestif et passent tout droit ... alors les crottes de minou sont terriblement alléchantes pour nos chiens. L'odeur déclenche même la faim chez beaucoup de gens quand ils nettoient la litière de minet :geek: héhéhé!

Mes chiens raffolent particulièrement des crottes de chevreuil et de lièvre quand on marche en forêt. Au moins, c'est plus naturel Rolling Eyes

Contact_Zone a écrit:: Un temps je mourrais d'envie de leur mettre des muselières étanches aux crottes...

Je vais y penser tient !!! Un cavalier avec une muselière ça va être top tendance !!!! Coprophagie: mange les crottes des autres animaux Forum19

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MDR ! :geek:

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Moi aussi en ce moment le truc de mon gros c'est de manger les crottes dans la litiere de la petite ! C'est pourtant une litiere fermee avec la petite porte battante ! Bon on l'a pas encore vu faire mais vu que la litiere est nikel je me dis qu'il y a anguille sous roche... Cote pratique, la litiere est propre !!
Ahhhh ces chiens !!!

steph et julie a écrit:: Bon on l'a pas encore vu faire mais vu que la litiere est nikel je me dis qu'il y a anguille sous roche... Cote pratique, la litiere est propre !!
Ahhhh ces chiens !!!

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Ici mon chien ne mange pas celles de mon chat, il préfère aller les chercher (aussi dans une litiere fermée avec une porte battante) et les disséminer dans mon salon! Plutôt classe quand je rentre du boulot avec quelqu'un! Laughing

Fanny tu as apparemment un chien très.....créatif !!! Coprophagie: mange les crottes des autres animaux Mdr71

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Bonjour,

Moi, je vais vous donner la recette du "Juste sec de Justin Bridou" par Zilia :

Prendre un cheval, lui faire faire un bon crottin à l'ancienne, le laisser sécher 4 ou 5 jours (le crottin , pas le cheval biensûr), au soleil et au Libecciu (vent sec et frais corse!), ça fait ressortir tous les âromes!! Coprophagie: mange les crottes des autres animaux 2176152401

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Ensuite le déguster avec un copain à l'abri des regards, c'est croustillant à l'extérieur et moelleux à l'intérieur un vrai régal. Coprophagie: mange les crottes des autres animaux 1017885822

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Pour finir, aller faire une bonne "léchouille" à sa maman si possible pas trop loin du nez pour la faire profiter du fumet!!
Avec ça elle a un transit intestinal impec, le plein de fibres est fait pour plusieurs jours!
Bon appéttit les copains et donnez vos notes sur "Un dîner presque parfait". Coprophagie: mange les crottes des autres animaux 2159460562

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Contact_Zone a écrit:: Je ne peux pas t'aider...j'en ai un qui ne rate pas une crotte de chat, un autre qui préfère les déjections d'Homo sapiens, le troisième se roule sur les crottes de renard et les poissons morts...

XD Nous on a le chien multitâches : elle fait tout ça ! -_-'

Enfin, on essaie de détourner, le "tu laisses" fonctionne pour le crottin de cheval, pour l'empêcher de se rouler, j'ai abandonner, pour le déjections humaines... on n'a rien trouvé encore, mais ça c'est immonde, vraiment, je trouve que c'est ce qui sent le plus ! -_-'

Zilia20 a écrit:: Bonjour,

Moi, je vais vous donner la recette du "Juste sec de Justin Bridou" par Zilia :

Prendre un cheval, lui faire faire un bon crottin à l'ancienne, le laisser sécher 4 ou 5 jours (le crottin , pas le cheval biensûr), au soleil et au Libecciu (vent sec et frais corse!), ça fait ressortir tous les âromes!!
Ensuite le déguster avec un copain à l'abri des regards, c'est croustillant à l'extérieur et moelleux à l'intérieur un vrai régal.
Pour finir, aller faire une bonne "léchouille" à sa maman si possible pas trop loin du nez pour la faire profiter du fumet!!
Avec ça elle a un transit intestinal impec, le plein de fibres est fait pour plusieurs jours!
Bon appéttit les copains et donnez vos notes sur "Un dîner presque parfait".

Lire ça pendant le petit déjeuner, ça n'a pas de prix !!!! Coprophagie: mange les crottes des autres animaux Mdr76

Vazaha a écrit:: Enfin, on essaie de détourner, le "tu laisses" fonctionne pour le crottin de cheval, pour l'empêcher de se rouler, j'ai abandonner, pour le déjections humaines... on n'a rien trouvé encore, mais ça c'est immonde, vraiment, je trouve que c'est ce qui sent le plus ! -_-'

Les déjections humaines ça c'est franchement degueu !! Chez moi ça va j'ai pas !!

Voilà ce qu'Oscar voit tous les jours (plusieurs fois par jour parfois même! -_-' )...

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Lahn a écrit:

Mes deux articles préférés sur le sujet :

http://liziangel.blogspot.com/2011/01/does-your-dog-eat-poop.html

Citation :: Does your dog eat poop?

It does? Then you are not alone. It's a common behaviour. Many dogs do it, and in certain contexts it's completely normal. In some parts of the world, dogs are still used to clean baby's bottoms. And for the populations of village dogs around the world, a smorgasbord of poop undoubtedly forms a substantial part of their daily diets.

Poop eating - or 'coprophagia' to give it the correct term - is classed both as a normal behaviour and an abnormal behaviour in dogs depending on type and context.

Firstly, the types of coprophagia:

Inter-coprophagia (eating the poop of other species)
Intra-coprophagia (eating of the poop of the same species)
Auto-coprophagia (eating of own poop)

The first type, inter-coprophagia, is considered to be a completely normal canine behaviour. The poop of other species varies in content. Poop from herbivores will contain varying amounts of partly digested plant material. For the dog, this provides a source of energy. Unlike herbivores, the dog's digestive system is not geared up to convert the cellulose from green plants into glucose, however, by eating partly digested plant matter either in the form of excreted poop or stomach/intestinal content, the dog is able to continue to breakdown the plant matter and benefit from the resulting glucose. Poop from carnivores may contain all manner of things - undigested vitamins, minerals and proteins, and bacteria from the animal's own gut. In fact any poop is teaming in bacteria of various types, and so is essentially full of 'live prey'.

The second type of coprophagia, intra-coprophagia, is under the control of different neurochemicals to inter-coprophagia, and is a normal behaviour for a bitch with puppies. She will lick her puppies anogenital area in order to stimulate the puppies to pee and poop, which she consumes and so keeps the nesting area clean, as well as gaining another food source for herself.

The third type, auto-coprophagia, along with intra-coprophagia, are normal, exploratory behaviours for puppies – a passing phase, which most will naturally grow out of. Why some puppies engage in this behaviour and other don't is unclear, but those who do may gain various nutritional benefits such as essential gut bacteria, enzymes, B vitamins and protein that are needed either for the maturation and function of the puppy's own digestive system, or for development in general.

And so on to ‘not normal’ coprophagia …

Except for bitches with puppies, intra- and/or auto-coprophagia in adult dogs is not normal behaviour. Because it is abnormal, I will now refer to the behaviour as ‘coprophagia’ meaning ‘eating of dog poop’ in general, regardless if own or other dogs’. The possible reasons for coprophagia are as follows:

Medically related causes of coprophagia include poor diet, pancreatic enzyme deficiency, intestinal parasites, malabsorption of nutrients (particularly protein and B vitamins), and hydrocephalus.
Coprophagia is also an alliomemetic behaviour, meaning that it is a copied behaviour – a dog watches another dog eating poop and so copies the behaviour. This is especially evident in a kennel environment.
Stress, anxiety and boredom can all be causal factors of coprophagia in adult dogs.
There is a genetic predisposition in some dogs, often affecting entire litters. There is no research yet to suggest that coprophagia is a form of CCD (Canine Compulsive Disorder) but I suspect that in some cases, it is. CCD is usually associated with stress or brain neuro-transmitter imbalances, and has recently been found to have a genetic cause, within the neural cadherin-2 gene (CDH2). This is the same gene responsible for autism in humans. In other cases of genetically predisposed coprophagia, a different gene may be responsible, possibly the gene that controls hunger and satiation (feeling full). Certainly, many coprophagic dogs are hungry dogs, so this would make sense.

So ... what to do about it?

Nothing if your dog is a puppy or a bitch with puppies, or if your adult dog is partial to the occasional mouthful of horse, cow, sheep, rabbit, fox or deer poop.

If your adult dog is regularly eating its own or other dogs' poop, firstly consider the possible reasons for the behaviour outlined above. If you suspect a medical or dietary cause, this must be addressed - if dietary, supplementing the dog's usual food with seaweed, alfalfa, wheatgrass, spirolina or Brewers Yeast (a good source of B vitamins) can be helpful. If your dog has just returned from a break in a boarding kennels, it may have copied the behaviour from other dogs. If your dog only poop eats in the presence of other dogs, the cause could be anxiety related.

By far the best way to control a dog's poop eating is prevention. If your adult dog eats its own poop, please don't waste your money (or risk your dog's health) by adding any of the various off-the-shelf poop-eating preventative additives to your dog's food - just clean up immediately after your dog poops. If you must add anything to Fido's food in order to make his poop taste bad to him, try a safe dietary option such as pineapple, pumpkin or courgette (zucchini). If your dog regularly eats the poop of other dogs, your options could include keeping it on a lead in 'high poop' areas, working on a positively reinforced 'leave' command, and carrying something with you that you can use as a distraction and to keep your dog otherwise engaged in 'low poop' areas. These options could also apply if your dog is an excessive horse or cow poop eater.

One thing is for certain - poop eating, once it starts, is a notoriously difficult behaviour to stop. Eating in itself is possibly the ultimate behaviour that a dog can engage in, so poop-eating, particularly for hungry, stressed or anxious dogs is a highly desirable and rewarding behaviour. In our eyes though, it is understandably one of the most repulsive behaviours that our dogs can possibly engage in - after all, the thought of eating poop ourselves is utterly disgusting, and coprophagia in humans is considered an insanity. It all comes down to perspective and learning to accept that when Fido has been tucking into a fresh pile of deer poop or a frozen fox-poopsicle it's normal behaviour, and that it's better to avoid his kisses for a while.

http://drsophiayin.com/blog/entry/coprophagia-the-scoop-on-poop-eating-in-dogs

Citation :: Coprophagia: The Scoop on Poop Eating in Dogs
By Dr. Sophia Yin

It seems like every few months a study comes out touting the benefits of pet ownership. According to the claims, stroking pets lowers our blood pressure, dog companions increase our exercise, and going to the dog park improves our sociability. But what most studies fail to reveal is the dark, dirty secret that up to 16% of dog owners don’t want you to know: THEIR dogs eat poop…a lot!

Yes, according to a study presented at the annual ACVB/AVSAB Behavior Symposium in San Diego last month, 16% of dogs are serious stool eaters. That means they have been seen doing it 5 times and 24% have been caught in the act at least once. Dr. Benjamin Hart, a board certified veterinary behaviorist at the University of California, Davis, conducted the study that consisted of two web-based surveys. The first yielded 1,548 usable returns and was about dogs and their traits in general. Dr. Hart also inconspicuously slipped in a few questions about stool eating so that researchers could compare non-stool eaters with stool-eaters to look at the numbers of each as well as the characteristics and factors associated with the behaviors. The second survey was just for pooches that had been observed eating poop more than 10 times. Hart received 1,400 usable surveys.

For those of you who are set on making sure you never get a dog with this despicable and stinky trait, the survey revealed some important factors you may want to know. For instance, Hart found, “The more dogs you have the more likely your dog will eat poop. The smallest percent (19%) of poop eaters were in single dog homes whereas 24% lived with two dogs and 30% lived in a three-dog household.”

Why would that be? It could have to do with the fact that while 15% of the stool-eaters ate their own poop, 85% ate the feces of other dogs. So more dogs probably equals more opportunity to eat another dog’s digested food. Yuck! Why is that somehow grosser than dogs eating their own?

Before you raise your hands wildly and proclaim that the dog must be lacking something in his diet, read on. “We found that diet of the dog had no effect,” says Hart. They did however find that gender and sexual status mattered somewhat. “Intact males were the least likely to eat stool. Neutered males were more likely, and spayed females the most likely at 19%.” says Hart.

My theory why this would be? Perhaps the intact males were thinking about other things (like sex!).

There were also some breed dispositions: 38% of border collies had a history of eating poop and 40% of shelties did, too. Now that’s something that probably will never show up in a breed description. Which breeds ate poop the least? Hart stresses there weren’t enough dogs to tell, but he points out, “None of the poodles in the study ate their stool".

Now, Hart’s original hypothesis was that perhaps some dogs eat poop because they are messy….slobs. But the fact that both stool eaters and non-stool eaters were equally easy to house-train seems to discount this hypothesis. Perhaps the most likely predictor for a dog to exhibit this behavior is if he’s a greedy eater: 52% of the stool eaters would steal food off a table. Only 27% of the non–poop eaters showed this lack of impulse control. But even if they were greedy eaters and ate poop, they were still somewhat selective. Over 90% only ate stools one to two days old and 75% only ate stools within the first 24 hours.
Do Commercial Products for Poop-Eating Dogs Work?

Ok, so you finally admit to yourself that your dog eats poop. What can you do? First off, don’t waste your time with the commercial anti-coprophagia agents. Of the 12 on the market at the time— For-Bid, Nasty-habit, Copraban, Deter,, and Potty Mouth, to name a few—none worked in more than 2% of dogs. Many didn’t work in any dogs at all. Even placing chili pepper in the poop didn’t work. Of course, does this really come as a surprise? Clearly, dogs that eat poop don’t care about bad taste. The study also found that you should avoid wasting your breath and energy using punishment. Yelling or chasing the dog away, electronic collars, and telling dogs to leave-it didn’t work either.
So What Should You Do?

First off, realize that dogs evolved over the last 10,000 + years as scavengers feeding off human trash. So it’s not that surprising that many are non-discerning about what they eat. Also, realize that mother dogs stimulate their puppies to poop by licking their butts and then clean up after them by eating the excrement. So poop eating is virtually in a dog’s DNA. Your best bet is to keep an eye on your dogs when they eliminate and clean up after them promptly. Also, if you have a known offender, make sure to be careful about letting your dog sidle up to you and slip in a wet kiss! At least now you don’t have to worry that your dog’s a freak. He shares this nasty habit with many of his friends.

J'aime pas ceux qui diabolisent le sujet ou ceux qui proposent des solutions complètement invraisemblables qui ont vraiment peu (enfin voir aucune en fait...) de chance de supprimer le comportement.

Orville, c'est les cacas d'oie et les cacas de chat.
Et ceux du Beagle du voisin qui ramasse pas... Coprophagie: mange les crottes des autres animaux 1781768365

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Un beagle qui est tellement gros qu'on dirait un basset... Pov bête... Doit manger n'importe quoi. Sad

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